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Old Aug 18, 2007, 10:13 AM // 10:13   #41
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Funny you dont seem to read much forums now do you. Selling quite well is an opinion.
One shared by the gaming industry pundits, NcSoft and Arenanet and their shareholders. I think we can safely say that the only opinion that matters in this is theirs, not yours.

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If you call 3 million games sold(not accounts) in 2 yrs doing quite well, thast your choice, but it would have been alot more than that.
Based on what? Not nerfing your favorite skill?

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So where is your 4 million figure, Im really waiting. Like I said before Last figures was 3 million or so, so at around 1.6 million actual players thats not that great as you seem to think, and its players like me that want to make GW the best that it can be. But keep being blind.
The 4 million comes from Jeff Strain in a recent interview with Gamespot if I recall correctly. As for the rest...*shrug*

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Ill even go so far as say that they will sell no more than 400,000 copies of GW:EN. Thats half of what each chapter has sold roughly. But yeap according to you they are doing quite well. We shall see.
If it wasnt doing well NcSoft would kill GW off, they're in it for the money not fanboism.

PS: I've been reading this forum pretty much daily for close to 2 years.
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Old Aug 18, 2007, 10:13 AM // 10:13   #42
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Well, ANet, you did what I was afraid you would do. Instead of just banning the dupers, you banned people who had received the duped items too - with the result that several innocent people were banned. Yes, those who knowingly received duped armbraces should be banned. But, because banning them would Inevitably lead to banning some innocents also, I cautioned you to let it go. Now you are in the position of having to undo your mistakes

The results? - just look at these boards: lessening trust in ANet, fear of trading in game, fear of playing with others in game, etc.

A post on another board called the duping "the last straw"

Now, I don't believe this individual incident is the last straw or the end of Guildwars.

But, it does show a trend that will eventually lead there if not stopped now. This event happened because ANet was simply too confident. They were not prepared to find this exploit early and were not prepared about how to handle it when it happened.

Here is the problem - with at least 2 years before GW2 arrives, ANet has to add now content and new features to keep the fans active. The more content and more features that are added, the greater the probability of exploits. If every exploit is handled like this one was, the percentage of unhappy players will continue to grow and the possibility of gaining new players through satisfied customers encouraging friends to join will shrink. The end result will be no more Guild Wars.

If you intend to keep Guild War strong and active, I suggest you become proactive instead of reactive.

First, realize you will not catch or foresee every exploit yourself. This duping thing caused as much damage as it did because you were too over confident. There WILL be exploits you can not prevent.

So I suggest that you get the exploiters on your side - just like companies who get hackers to work for them and pay people to find the security holes in their own software.

People use exploits for two reasons - an ingame advantage for themselves or the prestige of being smart enough or creative enough to trick the program.

Use this these motivations to your benefit.

Give an advantage and prestige to those who find exploits and turn them in to you.

For instance - give a minipet to the first player or guild to show you an exploit. Make it one that can only be obtained in this way. It would become an extreme status symbol or a source of a great deal of cash to the player/s who received it.

Or give a headgear that is specially designed and given only to those who showed you an exploit (make it like the heroes' headgear that gives +1 attribute bonus to whatever attribute rune is added to it - that would be a very visible status symbol)

Of course you could give ingame cash, a special title (like defender of the realm?), a unique weapon, a special lining on their guild cape

Or a combination of rewards.

Just be sure to make the rewards outstanding so that people WANTto tell you what exploits they find instead of using them in the game.

Add some rules, of course - they can not have used the exploit for any ingame advantage over and above what is needed to show the exploit is real and repeatable and they can not have told more players than would be reasonable to test the exploit.

By motivating people to tell you about the exploits instead of using them ingame you will be able to find the exploits earlier and shut them down before they harm the game with out causing ill will by banning people.

You have two choices - continue to be reactive - in which case exploits WILL happen and will affect the game. And you will be forced to react in ways that cause people to leave your game.

Or be proactive, deal with exploits in a positive fashion and create loyalty and enjoyment - and profit -for years to come.

May I suggest you try the latter for once?
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Old Aug 18, 2007, 10:29 AM // 10:29   #43
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Now you wanna know how GW is dyeing, its simple, Pissing off there player base is how its happining. And that is ANERFS FAULT.
Ok when did we have an election for you to represent the minds of the player base?

I shall rephrase it for you, for free.

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Now you wanna know how GW is dyeing, its simple, Pissing me off is how its happining. And that is ANERFS FAULT for nerfing my overpowered cookie cutter build.
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Old Aug 18, 2007, 11:53 AM // 11:53   #44
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Alright...

In a party of 12, I was the only one disconnected.
In a party of 8, I was the only one disconnected.
In a party of 6, I was the only one disconnected.
In another party of 12, I was the only one disconnected.
Maybe you should contact your Internet Service Provider
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Old Aug 18, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03   #45
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But, it does show a trend that will eventually lead there if not stopped now. This event happened because ANet was simply too confident. They were not prepared to find this exploit early and were not prepared about how to handle it when it happened.
Anet acted very professional and very fast. You know, no Software is 100% secure - GW is very secure. I think Anet did everything right.

Clueless people...
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Old Aug 18, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18   #46
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Ive said it once and Ill say it again. Anet MAKES money when they ban. if the person does not repurchase an account, Anet has lost nothing. If the person repurchases a new account, Anet MAKES money.

Anet will use any excuse to ban. They love to ban. They could not care less about who is innocent and who is guilty. All they need is an excuse.
Yeah just keep going with that myth.

As it has already been mentioned numerous times, you will get banned again if you buy a new account - read the EULA.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08   #47
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Haha you make me lough yopu think anet gets its money only from GW?
Lol you are as ignorant as a 1 month old child please who are you fooling anet has a backbone way harder then just to relly on GW its just somehting you dont think about hey hahaha make me laugh so hard

But anyhow what ever you sad is completely wrong they want to keep poeple in beocus eof the Expansion and possible costumer for GW2 your posts is completely unbased
wtf did anyone get this?
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 06:00 AM // 06:00   #48
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wtf did anyone get this?
nope jesus :P
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47   #49
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One shared by the gaming industry pundits, NcSoft and Arenanet and their shareholders. I think we can safely say that the only opinion that matters in this is theirs, not yours.



Based on what? Not nerfing your favorite skill?



The 4 million comes from Jeff Strain in a recent interview with Gamespot if I recall correctly. As for the rest...*shrug*



If it wasnt doing well NcSoft would kill GW off, they're in it for the money not fanboism.

PS: I've been reading this forum pretty much daily for close to 2 years.
Then you know by even your own post showing that NUMEROUS posts have been made. I think you may need to look more closely at the forums when you read.


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Ok when did we have an election for you to represent the minds of the player base?

I shall rephrase it for you, for free.
Why thank you, Now Ill return the favor just so people dont think we are just flaming each other , so Ill let them know your mood.

OMG my fantasy of anet is under attack and is shredding I must attack like a squirrel on crack. Waaaaaaa momy wheres my Prince Rurik Pillow.

There now that people see where you're are coming from they will know your not just flaming.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25   #50
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Ive said it once and Ill say it again. Anet MAKES money when they ban. if the person does not repurchase an account, Anet has lost nothing. If the person repurchases a new account, Anet MAKES money.

Anet will use any excuse to ban. They love to ban. They could not care less about who is innocent and who is guilty. All they need is an excuse.

Actually, I think people who have been playing for 1 year+ would be so pissed they never want to play GW anymore.. And Anet is STUPID that bans so many accounts before EotN!! If they ban 10 000 people, maybe 6000-7000 of them would buy EotN, lots of money lost there..
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 11:43 AM // 11:43   #51
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I love threads like these.


Dupers got banned.

People who received stacks of Armbraces from dupers got banned.

Innocent people who caught collateral damage and got banned will be unbanned.


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Old Aug 19, 2007, 12:45 PM // 12:45   #52
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Why thank you, Now Ill return the favor just so people dont think we are just flaming each other , so Ill let them know your mood.

OMG my fantasy of anet is under attack and is shredding I must attack like a squirrel on crack. Waaaaaaa momy wheres my Prince Rurik Pillow.

There now that people see where you're are coming from they will know your not just flaming.
You didn't answer the original question:

When did we have an election for you to represent the minds of the player base?

Stop posting like you know what the player base feel and start posting its what you feel. One is an assumption the other is a fact, People including myself will respect what you have to say more.

And if you think I'm an anet fan boy then you laughably mistaken. I can be extremely critical at times, but what I mostly am is realistic.
And everone knows an Eve pillow would be better than a Rurik pillow.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #53
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Yeah just keep going with that myth.

As it has already been mentioned numerous times, you will get banned again if you buy a new account - read the EULA.
I wonder I really wonder how the hell can it be possible. Credit card number? First Name Second name

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
ROFL
I dont even play the game with my realy name.
I didnt bought the game with credit card. If I still playing the game(uited 3 month ago becasue of anets anti-GAINING FROM BRAINLESS GRIND thought) and got banned I would probably made anet profit

The thing here you dont need to use your real name
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 05:19 PM // 17:19   #54
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Actually, I think people who have been playing for 1 year+ would be so pissed they never want to play GW anymore.. And Anet is STUPID that bans so many accounts before EotN!! If they ban 10 000 people, maybe 6000-7000 of them would buy EotN, lots of money lost there..
how many accounts did you lose for duping or receiving a ton of duped items?

nobody could be hitting so many threads bitchibg about this unless they got caught red handed big time.
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